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Post by Player Rep / NON GMed Teams GM on Feb 27, 2019 2:41:15 GMT
 LW Ryan Dzingel TWF 83 (Age 27) 1 year 6M (UFA 2020) I need to get over the floor, also need a top 6 LW. Works out nicely for Ryan
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Post by Golden Knights/Islanders on Feb 28, 2019 0:04:08 GMT
MTL could've traded for Abdelkader or any bigger contract to get over floor. Now 83s are worth $6M... Way to guys. 😕
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Post by Montreal Canadiens on Feb 28, 2019 0:18:48 GMT
MTL could've traded for Abdelkader or any bigger contract to get over floor. Now 83s are worth $6M... Way to guys. 😕 I’m good with not having s long term shit contract. Way rather 1 year. And why would I give up pieces to take on cap? |
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Post by Golden Knights/Islanders on Feb 28, 2019 0:33:53 GMT
MTL could've traded for Abdelkader or any bigger contract to get over floor. Now 83s are worth $6M... Way to guys. 😕 I’m good with not having s long term shit contract. Way rather 1 year. And why would I give up pieces to take on cap? To get to the cap floor instead of fuck everyone else's offers by offering a player double his worth, all because you're at the cap floor. You're not the only one, but that's your own fault. Yet we make it difficult for guys that are trying to get under cap or move cap through trade? Makes no sense. I like Dizzy or Zinger or whatever folks call him, but offering 83s $6M is bullshit... And we have 2 of them now in this FA period, that I've seen... AND by 2 teams that traded for a bunch of kids that make less than $2M a piece. So now 83s are worth $6M... 84s worth more, and so on... All because you can't manage your team according to cap? Screw that. You literally kill the cap system with these ludicrous offers. |
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Post by Sens/Blues on Feb 28, 2019 0:48:04 GMT
I’m good with not having s long term shit contract. Way rather 1 year. And why would I give up pieces to take on cap? To get to the cap floor instead of fuck everyone else's offers by offering a player double his worth, all because you're at the cap floor. You're not the only one, but that's your own fault. Yet we make it difficult for guys that are trying to get under cap or move cap through trade? Makes no sense. I like Dizzy or Zinger or whatever folks call him, but offering 83s $6M is bullshit... And we have 2 of them now in this FA period, that I've seen... So now 83s are worth $6M... 84s worth more, and so on. You literally kill the cap system with these ludicrous offers. You realize Dzingel will probably get around 5.5m per on a longer term IRL right? Get with the times man, it's not 2006 anymore |
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Post by Golden Knights/Islanders on Feb 28, 2019 0:55:58 GMT
To get to the cap floor instead of fuck everyone else's offers by offering a player double his worth, all because you're at the cap floor. You're not the only one, but that's your own fault. Yet we make it difficult for guys that are trying to get under cap or move cap through trade? Makes no sense. I like Dizzy or Zinger or whatever folks call him, but offering 83s $6M is bullshit... And we have 2 of them now in this FA period, that I've seen... So now 83s are worth $6M... 84s worth more, and so on. You literally kill the cap system with these ludicrous offers. You realize Dzingel will probably get around 5.5m per on a longer term IRL right? Get with the times man, it's not 2006 anymore So what? This isn't IRL either. Dizzy, here... Right now... $3.5M TOPS, maybe $4M on FA if there's a bidding war. He's well out of free upgrades. |
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Post by Golden Knights/Islanders on Feb 28, 2019 1:26:31 GMT
Sens/Blues & Montreal Canadiens It's not the rest of the league's fault teams decide to take on ALL under 20 contracts and are under the cap floor... Nor is it the league's fault when teams go over either. But it should work the same, right? Offering these types of contracts affects everyone now, and will, and should bite these GMs in the ass that just stockpile rookies. You want high prices... You got it... But you're not keeping your entire team either... Cuz you decided to sign an 83s for $6M cuz you couldn't manage your team to stay above cap floor. Once your rookies hit 83... You're even more fucked now. Bravo. Have we learned nothing from the Blackhawks model? The Kings?
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Post by Calgary Flames on Feb 28, 2019 1:52:11 GMT
Sens/Blues & Montreal Canadiens It's not the rest of the league's fault teams decide to take on ALL under 20 contracts and are under the cap floor... Nor is it the league's fault when teams go over either. But it should work the same, right? Offering these types of contracts affects everyone now, and will, and should bite these GMs in the ass that just stockpile rookies. You want high prices... You got it... But you're not keeping your entire team either... Cuz you decided to sign an 83s for $6M cuz you couldn't manage your team to stay above cap floor. Once your rookies hit 83... You're even more fucked now. Bravo. Have we learned nothing from the Blackhawks model? The Kings? Dude stop complaining. Let people run their teams the way they want. You're not the only one who's going to be dealing with this. We all are and I think it's exciting rather than the same boring and predictable signings that can happen. In the end, things will even out. When teams don't have cap space, the prices will fall. Stop being short sighted. |
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Post by Montreal Canadiens on Feb 28, 2019 3:54:43 GMT
I’m good with not having s long term shit contract. Way rather 1 year. And why would I give up pieces to take on cap? To get to the cap floor instead of fuck everyone else's offers by offering a player double his worth, all because you're at the cap floor. You're not the only one, but that's your own fault. Yet we make it difficult for guys that are trying to get under cap or move cap through trade? Makes no sense. I like Dizzy or Zinger or whatever folks call him, but offering 83s $6M is bullshit... And we have 2 of them now in this FA period, that I've seen... AND by 2 teams that traded for a bunch of kids that make less than $2M a piece. So now 83s are worth $6M... 84s worth more, and so on... All because you can't manage your team according to cap? Screw that. You literally kill the cap system with these ludicrous offers. Don’t really care if I’m affecting your offers to be honest. I have kids I’m trying to grow and a couple holes. Why would I trade the kids for more expensive players when I’m trying to rebuild? Instead I filled the hole I had with the cap space I had. Has nothing to do with anyone else or their offers or the system. |
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Post by Sens/Blues on Feb 28, 2019 6:07:13 GMT
Sens/Blues & Montreal Canadiens It's not the rest of the league's fault teams decide to take on ALL under 20 contracts and are under the cap floor... Nor is it the league's fault when teams go over either. But it should work the same, right? Offering these types of contracts affects everyone now, and will, and should bite these GMs in the ass that just stockpile rookies. You want high prices... You got it... But you're not keeping your entire team either... Cuz you decided to sign an 83s for $6M cuz you couldn't manage your team to stay above cap floor. Once your rookies hit 83... You're even more fucked now. Bravo. Have we learned nothing from the Blackhawks model? The Kings? Sorry we do things the smart way and don't do shit trades for guys like Abdelkader. I'd rather sign a 90, or an 83 for that matter, to get me over the cap floor, not pickup your garbage with long term dead cap. Plus shitting on me for stockpiling rookies? I'm the fuckin Sens what the hell else was I supposed to do? And learned something from the Blackhawks/Kings model? You mean two of the cup winning-est teams over the last decade? You think they'd trade their cups to be barely making the playoffs now? Get real. I'd gladly take two cup wins with cap problems afterwards over being mediocre but cap-responsible. |
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Post by Golden Knights/Islanders on Feb 28, 2019 16:37:52 GMT
Sens/Blues & Montreal Canadiens It's not the rest of the league's fault teams decide to take on ALL under 20 contracts and are under the cap floor... Nor is it the league's fault when teams go over either. But it should work the same, right? Offering these types of contracts affects everyone now, and will, and should bite these GMs in the ass that just stockpile rookies. You want high prices... You got it... But you're not keeping your entire team either... Cuz you decided to sign an 83s for $6M cuz you couldn't manage your team to stay above cap floor. Once your rookies hit 83... You're even more fucked now. Bravo. Have we learned nothing from the Blackhawks model? The Kings? Sorry we do things the smart way and don't do shit trades for guys like Abdelkader. I'd rather sign a 90, or an 83 for that matter, to get me over the cap floor, not pickup your garbage with long term dead cap. Plus shitting on me for stockpiling rookies? I'm the fuckin Sens what the hell else was I supposed to do? And learned something from the Blackhawks/Kings model? You mean two of the cup winning-est teams over the last decade? You think they'd trade their cups to be barely making the playoffs now? Get real. I'd gladly take two cup wins with cap problems afterwards over being mediocre but cap-responsible. Look at them now though... That's exactly what they did. They got their cups, but now they're way overpaying players like Toews, Kane, Kopitar, Brown, Martinez, Seabrook, etc. and now they are mediocre bullshit because they're strapped with paying 2+ players $10M contracts or double their pay grade, which is 1/4 to almost 1/3 of the cap. It's ridiculous. |
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Post by Sens/Blues on Feb 28, 2019 18:15:50 GMT
Sorry we do things the smart way and don't do shit trades for guys like Abdelkader. I'd rather sign a 90, or an 83 for that matter, to get me over the cap floor, not pickup your garbage with long term dead cap. Plus shitting on me for stockpiling rookies? I'm the fuckin Sens what the hell else was I supposed to do? And learned something from the Blackhawks/Kings model? You mean two of the cup winning-est teams over the last decade? You think they'd trade their cups to be barely making the playoffs now? Get real. I'd gladly take two cup wins with cap problems afterwards over being mediocre but cap-responsible. Look at them now though... That's exactly what they did. They got their cups, but now they're way overpaying players like Toews, Kane, Kopitar, Brown, Martinez, Seabrook, etc. and now they are mediocre bullshit because they're strapped with paying 2+ players $10M contracts or double their pay grade, which is 1/4 to almost 1/3 of the cap. It's ridiculous. But they got the cups, that's what matters. |
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Post by Golden Knights/Islanders on Feb 28, 2019 18:40:53 GMT
Look at them now though... That's exactly what they did. They got their cups, but now they're way overpaying players like Toews, Kane, Kopitar, Brown, Martinez, Seabrook, etc. and now they are mediocre bullshit because they're strapped with paying 2+ players $10M contracts or double their pay grade, which is 1/4 to almost 1/3 of the cap. It's ridiculous. But they got the cups, that's what matters. Does it really when they completely suck after those cups? Same could be said about the Oilers FFS. lol Yes, they have their dynasty, and they now have the best player in the league (again)... What are they doing? ...Shit all, for 13 to almost 30 years now. The Leafs haven't won a cup since '67, and they're even overpaying guys too. If you want a player, fine, but pay them appropriately, even if it is a little over market value... But not these ridiculous contracts for guys that you'll be playing in your bottom 3-6 anyways cuz you're sitting on all 20 yr olds that you're developing, and are making less than $1M, but turnaround and say a guy like Abdelkader as an 80 PWF making $4.250M has "negative value", but shit like paying an 83 $6M or an 81 $3M, even for 1 year, is perfectly acceptable? Do you even hear yourself? I don't think you do. |
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Post by Toronto Maple Leafs on Feb 28, 2019 18:54:05 GMT
But they got the cups, that's what matters. Does it really when they completely suck after those cups? Same could be said about the Oilers FFS. lol Yes, they have their dynasty, and they now have the best player in the league (again)... What are they doing? ...Shit all, for 13 to almost 30 years now. The Leafs haven't won a cup since '67, and they're even overpaying guys too. If you want a player, fine, but pay them appropriately, even if it is a little over market value... But not these ridiculous contracts for guys that you'll be playing in your bottom 3-6 anyways cuz you're sitting on all 20 yr olds that you're developing, and are making less than $1M, but turnaround and say a guy like Abdelkader as an 80 PWF making $4.250M has "negative value", but shit like paying an 83 $6M or an 81 $3M, even for 1 year, is perfectly acceptable? Do you even hear yourself? I don't think you do. Which stars are the Leafs overpaying exactly? |
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Post by Golden Knights/Islanders on Feb 28, 2019 19:04:10 GMT
Does it really when they completely suck after those cups? Same could be said about the Oilers FFS. lol Yes, they have their dynasty, and they now have the best player in the league (again)... What are they doing? ...Shit all, for 13 to almost 30 years now. The Leafs haven't won a cup since '67, and they're even overpaying guys too. If you want a player, fine, but pay them appropriately, even if it is a little over market value... But not these ridiculous contracts for guys that you'll be playing in your bottom 3-6 anyways cuz you're sitting on all 20 yr olds that you're developing, and are making less than $1M, but turnaround and say a guy like Abdelkader as an 80 PWF making $4.250M has "negative value", but shit like paying an 83 $6M or an 81 $3M, even for 1 year, is perfectly acceptable? Do you even hear yourself? I don't think you do. Which stars are the Leafs overpaying exactly? Nylander, for starters... Tavares isn't worth $11M, as good as he is, and Matthews & Marner will likely garner more than that, even though they're not worth $11M either. |
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